Forum Activity for @david-messenger

Monterey
@david-messenger
12/20/19 11:52:31PM
17 posts

Purpose of DAA tuning


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

And here I've been teaching myself to play chords for the past several years in Dad without a 6 1/2 fret...
Hobbyhorse
@hobbyhorse
12/20/19 11:10:24PM
10 posts

Rebec


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Thanks all for your comments.

I used the Rutger uni plans and did enlarge them a little to accommodate the alto tuning that I settled on. The nylgut strings are ok for the d and a but do not have enough tension on the G to get a clear note, however overall it did make the sounds I was hoping for. Ultimately I will have to get a gut set for it.

Irene the plans for the hurdy gurdy came from Graeme McCormack of Tasmania who runs a web site called Antiquated Strings. They were free, which was nice but there were some inconsistencies in the dimensioning which kept me on my toes. I am a builder of instruments ( I am a retired joiner who now has time) rather than a player but I can feel my way around the ones I have built .... I do not pretend to be proficient. The hurdy gurdy did take me 6 months to build. The rebec was just completed today and is still something of a mystery .... given a little more time and I will probably have a better understanding of the fingerboard.

Strumelia, yes the Crwth is bowed but it traditionally has a flat bridge on it which makes for some mournful sounds at times. There are 4 strings over the fingerboard and two that run free and are played as in a lyre. My hands are not really as flexible as they need to be for this one. The Rebec scale length 13 1/8 and the overall is 22 inches. I do have some timber put aside for a tenor rebec next year.

Ken, the Nordic Lyre is also one of Michael Kings, as also was the Crwth. I found him to be a very good communicator who seemed interested in what I was doing, which I thought was a bit special.

Çhristmas wishes to all of you.

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
12/20/19 10:44:20PM
2,157 posts

Rebec


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Hobbyhorse -- your Lyre looks really nice, as do your othere builds.  I build a few lyres myself.  My favorite small lyre is the Cologne pattern from Michael King in England, and my mist recent is an Oberflacht pattern, also his, with kalrose carving on the soundboard.   If you search the Photo section on "Lyre" you'll see pix of mine.

I've followed Paul Butler at Rutgers for many years. He has done some amazing builds!!  


updated by @ken-hulme: 12/20/19 10:46:28PM
Strumelia
@strumelia
12/20/19 10:26:42PM
2,420 posts

Rebec


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Hobbyhorse, that rebec looks wonderful!  What is the scale length you settled on?  Did you make a 'tenor' sized one?

You are very talented.  I like the looks of your crwth as well.  Do you bow the crwth?

IRENE
@irene
12/20/19 09:42:09PM
168 posts

Rebec


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Hobbyhorse....your builds pictured here are just marvelous.  I know your N.Z. wood and the history of that swamp Kauri wood.  But your building such fabulous musical instruments is a marvelous thing.   Do you play the rubic and the hurdygurdy?   I've always wanted to make a hurdygurdy....wayyyyyyyyyyy too many parts.....Did you do that hurdy gurdy with plans from somewhere?   aloha, irene

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
12/20/19 09:11:31PM
1,568 posts

Rebec


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

@hobbyhorse How does the rebec sound?  The hurdy-gurdy?  Your builds look good. 


updated by @robin-thompson: 12/20/19 09:12:47PM
Hobbyhorse
@hobbyhorse
12/20/19 08:33:43PM
10 posts

Rebec


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Herewith my Rebec. 

The body is from 10,000 year old New Zealand swamp kauri, the soudboard is recycled kauri and probably 100 years old and the finger board is from matai, again a New Zealand timber. The rebec is finished with lacquer and the finger board is oiled. I have used nylgut strings on it at this stage as this is what I have in my workshop and I really wanted to hear what it sounds like. It is  strung  as an alto: G d a


20191221_134809.jpg 20191221_134809.jpg - 200KB
LisavB
@lisavb
12/18/19 07:16:45PM
58 posts

You know your dulcimer has a hold on you when...


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

YOWZA!  Vicious table saw!  I'm doing much better already.  I tend to heal fast, and now I have a nice coating of NewSkin on there.  That stuff is great!  It did not sting, probably partly due to the fact that it was no longer a fresh wound, and also b/c I found a formula that also claimed to have a topical analgesic in it.  

John C. Knopf
@john-c-knopf
12/18/19 05:59:48PM
453 posts

You know your dulcimer has a hold on you when...


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

That's right!  You know, table saws are bad for damaging your fingers or hands.  The tips of my thumb and forefinger on my right hand went through "an aggressive change" over a year ago due to my table saw.  Things healed very nicely, thank God, but the sensitivity is gone somewhat.  It's harder to pick up small objects now, but I'm thankful that the injuries weren't much worse.

You'll be fine after a while, I'm sure.

LisavB
@lisavb
12/18/19 09:19:36AM
58 posts

You know your dulcimer has a hold on you when...


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

LOL! I'm on the computer a lot for work, and I am very, very swift at typing.  That first morning, I had a really clumsy/hasty attempt at a bandage and so the finger was knocking into other keys when I typed.  Annoying!  Slimmed down the bandage and got my speed back.  But no way could I have fretted with that tip.  Best to not damage ones hands in the first place! winky

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
12/18/19 07:32:17AM
1,568 posts

You know your dulcimer has a hold on you when...


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

I understand!  I have different problems with my hands.  Other than pulling up my pants and brushing my teeth, mountain dulcimer is the big consideration when something happens with my hands. :) 

Don Grundy
@don-grundy
12/17/19 10:50:50PM
188 posts

You know your dulcimer has a hold on you when...


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

At 72 my hands are really important. My Zen moments are playing my dulcimers and harmonicas and tying flies.
IRENE
@irene
12/17/19 10:39:49PM
168 posts

You know your dulcimer has a hold on you when...


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

sorry about the "slice" but the rest of these posts are a crack up.  Yep, I have counted it a blessing when I did a number on my right and said, "well, I can still strum, so it's okay."   aloha, irene

LisavB
@lisavb
12/17/19 09:00:31PM
58 posts

You know your dulcimer has a hold on you when...


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

Thanks!  I'm going to get some of that skin glue.  The slice is on a really difficult spot to try to bandage.  If anyone would understand or know what to do, it's you all!

Susie
@susie
12/17/19 02:09:43PM
513 posts

You know your dulcimer has a hold on you when...


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

I think the very same way, since beginning my music journey in 1973. smile I hate it when a injury interferes with my playing guitar or dulcimer. I truly feel blessed as long as I can play.

Dusty Turtle
@dusty
12/17/19 12:29:59PM
1,870 posts

You know your dulcimer has a hold on you when...


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

I hope you heal quickly.  The Liquid Skin stuff that Ken recommends is awesome.  It seals like super glue but it is also antiseptic, so it keeps things clean. It is especially useful on parts of the hand that move a lot.

Don Grundy
@don-grundy
12/17/19 12:00:05PM
188 posts

You know your dulcimer has a hold on you when...


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

My wife; the art teacher has always used super glue.
Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
12/17/19 11:42:43AM
2,157 posts

You know your dulcimer has a hold on you when...


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions

I recommend Liquid Skin or NuSkin.  Burns like anything at first but protects cut fingers reaaaally well and helps them heal faster.

LisavB
@lisavb
12/17/19 10:20:01AM
58 posts

You know your dulcimer has a hold on you when...


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions


So I was getting ready for work yesterday, and then I sliced the tip of my ring finger on the edge of a crisp file folder.  Sliced it real good.  Amid frantically trying to stop the bleeding so I could get out and make my bus, I thought to myself, thank heavens it's not on my fretting hand.  

You know that dulcimer's got a grip on you when you start thinking like that!

Not only that, I recently bought a lovely black Fender acoustic guitar for when I want "all the notes."  Trying to learn that as well.  

Can't disappoint my stringed friends by not being able to play!


updated by @lisavb: 03/22/20 06:08:04PM
Salt Springs
@salt-springs
12/15/19 02:56:47PM
215 posts



You'll be fine just be patient...........but as I said Friday, when you get your strings and some paste etc.  I'll show you how to do it by watching you do it.  It's not hard to do but it does take you a bit until you get the hang of it.  You know how to get in touch so again feel free.

Banjimer
@greg-gunner
12/15/19 02:24:27PM
142 posts



Not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but a dulcimer capo placed on top of the fretboard and the strings down near the tail end of the dulcimer can hold the strings in place on the tail pins (and keep them from coming off the tail end pins) while you wind the other end around your wooden friction pegs.  Kind of like having a third hand keeping everything in position until things are tightened up.

AngelinaCat
@angelinacat
12/15/19 01:50:59PM
22 posts



Not yet, but it's coming...

Salt Springs
@salt-springs
12/15/19 01:19:51PM
215 posts



Go to youtube and find Cripple Creek Lesson 1 by Cherokee Cowboy (Rob Lackey).  The first part of the video will be helpful.

Did you get some peg dope or compound?

AngelinaCat
@angelinacat
12/15/19 11:26:19AM
22 posts



Thanks everyone!  I've been trying to watch some YouTube vids, and most that I have found so far are for the geared tuners and not the friction pegs that I have.  So it's confusing.

Ken Longfield
@ken-longfield
12/15/19 10:59:41AM
1,355 posts



Definitely over.

Ken

"The dulcimer sings a sweet song."

Salt Springs
@salt-springs
12/14/19 07:40:37PM
215 posts



Over

AngelinaCat
@angelinacat
12/14/19 07:32:58PM
22 posts



Thank you!  Now, again, over or under??

Thanks

Kusani
@kusani
12/14/19 07:00:31PM
134 posts



You are welcome. The hemostats will work just fine as well.  More specifically, after placing the loop over the pin, I gently close the loop with the pliers where it won't slip off the pin. 

AngelinaCat
@angelinacat
12/14/19 06:50:52PM
22 posts



Hi Kusani, I've got those, and also some very small, skinny, needle nose hemostats, all ready.  Thanks!

Kusani
@kusani
12/14/19 06:29:55PM
134 posts



I use needle nose pliers to pinch my loops just bit so they don't come off the pins while restringing. 

 

AngelinaCat
@angelinacat
12/14/19 06:08:04PM
22 posts




H i Folks,

I now have some strings, and I also have wooden, friction pegs.  Should I wind the string 'over' or 'under' the peg?

It's a 1975 Lucky Diamond Dulcimer, and came with six strings, and it's original pegs. 

I think I am going to start with four strings so I can learn the basics.  I have a book--thank you, Mr. SS--and will go from there.

So, Over or Under?

Thanks!


updated by @angelinacat: 12/14/19 06:11:11PM
Kusani
@kusani
12/14/19 03:56:23PM
134 posts



We schedule the updates on all our devices to take place automatically so it really isn't an inconvenience. And they really are not quite that often: Since the past few years,  Apple  has consistently released major  iOS Updates  every year around September. They also release incremental  updates  with critical bug fixes and  updates based upon the feedback every quarter (usually). As far as our smart phones go, we enjoy the fact we have our calendars, grocery lists, do it lists, diet programs, weather, maps, flashlight, compass, camera, photos, music, boarding passes, scan & go (for shopping), research tool (Google), wallet, shopping cards, and hearing aid controls all on small tool (smartphone) that fits snuggly in our pocket; and yes we use them as a phone also. Overall, the smart phone is an amazing device. HUG


updated by @kusani: 12/14/19 06:40:37PM
jp
@jp
12/14/19 12:26:09PM
42 posts



i recently upgraded to an iphone 7 from a 4... i could not upgrade the 4 to any of the new osi.... the reason i went as high as 7 is because of the 7's water resistance.....apple has been guilty of this kind of action from day one... they do it purposely for only one reason profit. boy talk about wasteful throw away society.... 

Salt Springs
@salt-springs
12/14/19 09:36:57AM
215 posts



Ken Hulme:

Times like this, I'm glad to be a Luddite.  I have  a perfectly good flip phone to  make calls with (and that's all);  a superior digital camera to take photos with; and a laptop and tablet for accessing the Internet.  I have no real desire to have everything crammed into one shell with a too-small screen to be comfortably read by my  not-getting-any-younger eyes.  

Wow Ken!.........I thought for sure being a Scott you would be a Presbyterian. 

Kusani
@kusani
12/14/19 09:00:12AM
134 posts



Apple and their products are always a good 'debate' topic.  Yes they are pricy, and yes they upgrade too fast for my speed.  However, on the flip side I appreciate their attempts at leading, or at least keeping up, with the technology. For me it's a matter of just how much speed to do I actually need?  Right now, and for the foreseeable future, I don't need any more. Despite the obvious negatives, I am sticking with quality and reliability; for now at least. dulcimer

Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
12/14/19 08:55:31AM
2,157 posts



Times like this, I'm glad to be a Luddite.  I have  a perfectly good flip phone to  make calls with (and that's all);  a superior digital camera to take photos with; and a laptop and tablet for accessing the Internet.  I have no real desire to have everything crammed into one shell with a too-small screen to be comfortably read by my  not-getting-any-younger eyes.  

Salt Springs
@salt-springs
12/10/19 06:01:33PM
215 posts

Wind Instruments????


Adventures with 'other' instruments...

Good to know you folks are still playing!!   I have lot's of flutes, Native American by Michael Allen, a High Spirits, Ken Light's and Charlie Mont, Blue Bears.  My Bansuri's and Shakuhachi's etc. have been boxed for a good while now, since I wrecked a Trigeminal Nerve and playing them can set it off.  I really miss it, especially the Anasazi's and Japanese and Arabian flutes.  But, Lord willing this thing will pass.......I still have a box of 10 I got from Erik the Flute Maker when he was helping a little girl from Nicarauga pay for some of her care while getting surgery done at Baptist Hospital in Miami.

Since I love that music and you folk are into it, can I get you to do some audio.  In the mean time, dulcimer tunes it is for me.

Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
12/10/19 05:37:24PM
1,568 posts

mountain dulcimer in trio with contrabass and guitar


General mountain dulcimer or music discussions


Here is a different video from this French trio, Douce Merise

I'm a fan of this group! 


updated by @robin-thompson: 12/10/19 05:39:55PM
  253